#19689: "Manual scoring + muggins variant (failing at scoring benefits the opponent)"
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• Var vänlig klipp och klistra in felmeddelandet du ser på skärmen, om något.
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
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• Varsågod och förklara vad du ville göra, vad du gjorde och vad som hände
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Google Chrome v83
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• Var vänlig kopiera/klistra in texten på engelska istället för ditt eget språk. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Är denna text tillgänglig i översättningssystemet? I så fall, var det mer än 24 timmar sedan den översattes?
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Google Chrome v83
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• Vänligen förklara ditt förslag exakt och koncist så att det är så enkelt som möjligt att förstå vad du menar.
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Google Chrome v83
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• Vad visades på skärmen när du blockerades (Blank skärm? Del av spelets användargränssnitt? Felmeddelande?)?
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Google Chrome v83
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• Vilken del av reglerna respekterades inte av BGA-adaptionen?
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
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• Är regelbrottet synligt i återuppspelning? Om ja, vilket nummer är det på draget?
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Google Chrome v83
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• Vilken spelhandling ville du göra?
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
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• Vad försöker du göra för att sätta igång denna spelmekaniken?
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• Vad hände när du försökte göra det här (felmeddelande, meddelande i spelstatusrad, ...)?
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Google Chrome v83
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• På vilket steg i spelet kom felet (vad var den aktuella instruktionen från spelet)?
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
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• Vad hände när du försökte utföra en spelhandling (felmeddelande, meddelande i spelstatusrad, ...)?
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Google Chrome v83
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• Vänligen beskriv visningsproblemet. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Google Chrome v83
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• Var vänlig kopiera/klistra in texten på engelska istället för ditt eget språk. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Är denna text tillgänglig i översättningssystemet? I så fall, var det mer än 24 timmar sedan den översattes?
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Google Chrome v83
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• Vänligen förklara ditt förslag exakt och koncist så att det är så enkelt som möjligt att förstå vad du menar.
I wonder if this variant can be considered, a manual scoring in which when a player misses points when scoring, those points go to the opponent.
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Google Chrome v83
Rapporthistorik
I have been tossing around the idea of muggings,
There are a couple of issues I can't get around
First it would slow down the game as each player would have to wait for the count, and an extra "turn" in turn based games, but if both players agree to this style it is no big issue.
Another is the UI
BGA GuideLines state
II-2 Use left clic only● The whole game should be playable with only simple left button mouse clicks.● Context menus should not be used.●Dragndrop should be avoided (if you want to use it anyway, you should make a click basedalternative available).● Mouse icon must change on cliquable elements (« cursor:pointer » CSS property)..
So I would have to display a grid of 29 buttons (0-29) or of 3 buttons +/-/OK and the user would have to click up to 29 times (if they are lucky)
The final hurdle is the muggins themselves,
I would have to display this interface to both players all the time, if I only give the opponent an opportunity to correct the count when a miscount is done then that would tip the player off that something was miscounted.
Then how would each situation be handled
Player A | Player B
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correct | correct -- this is easy
correct | higher -- should there be a penalty*
correct | lower -- **
lower | lower than Player A
lower | higher than Player A
higher | lower than Player A
higher | higher than Player A
*from section 10.4a of the American Cribbage College rule book
If the judges determine that the play
was not a muggins, the opponent will be awarded
the points taken as a penalty.
** 10.4a
If the true amount
of underpegging is determined to be other than
the amount originally claimed, the caller is entitled only to the lesser of the claimed or true
amounts. In no case shall the amount of points
awarded for muggins exceed the actual number
of holes that could have been pegged had the
scoring been correctly done.
www.cribbage.org/NewSite/rules/ACCRuleBook2016.pdf
I am open to any suggestions, especially variants that will give BGA players more ways to play, I just don't know how to overcome these hurdles. Please feel free to offer more feedback
4 - 5 - 5 - 6
You'd click
5 - 5 - "score" : +2 pair
4 - 5 - 6 - "score" : +2 15
4 - 5- 6 - "score" : +2 15
4 - 5- 6 - "score" : +3 run
4 - 5- 6 - "score" : +3 run
just selecting and clicking "score" the way you select and put in the crib.
have "score" and "done" in the action bar.
A "simplistic" muggins would be to just _give_ to the opponent anything they missed, without making her do anything!
Otherwise you could then just give them same UI to the opponent who would just click "done" or click the missing scoring things.
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