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#24131: "Logs contain all tricks when manual is explicit about only being able to go through the last one"

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9 Sep 2020 01:24 • panaggio • Buggen har inte kunnat återupprepas av utvecklarna än:

Jaipur has a similar issue (you could easily go through logs and count cards and chips on another player's hand), so BGA's implementation hides anything but the last entry on the logs.

9 Sep 2020 19:40 • phyphor • Buggen har inte kunnat återupprepas av utvecklarna än:

It's a co-operative game, so keeping information visible that's already been made public isn't a bad thing.
Letting people keep checking the discard instead of playing, could be bad, but that isn't an issue in a digital version.

4 Oct 2020 04:18 • Remi_R • Buggen har inte kunnat återupprepas av utvecklarna än:

The boardgame is also a co-operative game... I think if the conceptor put it as a rules it's because else it's making the cooperative game too much easy and then its decreasing the interest and the challenge which is an important part of a cooperative game.

5 Oct 2020 13:33 • jade_alarm • Buggen har inte kunnat återupprepas av utvecklarna än:

This is standard for online games, and necessary if you're playing asynchronously.

5 Oct 2020 23:04 • Scott_Bailey • Buggen har inte kunnat återupprepas av utvecklarna än:

With asynchronous play, only the last player would know what cards were played.

*If* a mechanism were created to show the last hand, that would satisfy this requirement; however, it would add significant bookkeeping for players.

It seems better to allow those players wanting the greater challenge to ignore the log.

14 Oct 2020 20:02 • dcorbin • Buggen har inte kunnat återupprepas av utvecklarna än:

What a player should be able to see is the current trick, and the contents of the last trick. Nothing more. Granted, it will be pretty had to card-count in asynchronous play. BGA should support it like it is in real life,a nd if you (which it does not) and then allow a variant like "full game log" to support asynchronous play.

23 Mar 2021 17:21 • huehnerlady • Buggen har inte kunnat återupprepas av utvecklarna än:

Does BGA support games without it being a log? I mean you have that history also to be able to replay a match so could be a hard limit of BGA?

If not you could make that an option in the creation screen of a game to play with/without log and then the players can decide what they wanna do

15 May 2022 15:32 • leocaseiro • Detta är ingen bugg:

As much as I agree with you, that there's a limitation on BGA platform, I don't think we could fix this issue. I suggest you don't read the logs.
Other than that, there isn't much I could do.

The way that BGA works, if we remove logs, we aren't able to get notified when another player triggers an action, such as playing a card.

15 May 2022 15:38 • dcorbin • Detta är ingen bugg:

How does The Crew: Mission Deep Sea do it?

15 May 2022 17:54 • Tisaac • Detta är ingen bugg:

It's just hidden in the client but it's still here if you look at the DOM inspector, so it depends what you define "can be examined"

16 May 2022 20:41 • leocaseiro • Buggen har inte kunnat återupprepas av utvecklarna än:

Okay, I’ll add the the backlog to hide that from logs, similar what despesa is doing.

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