#29010: "Allow turn-based tournament to use "+X hours per turn" game speeds"
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Detaljerad beskrivning
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• Var vänlig klipp och klistra in felmeddelandet du ser på skärmen, om något.
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? -
• Varsågod och förklara vad du ville göra, vad du gjorde och vad som hände
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Mozilla v5
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• Var vänlig kopiera/klistra in texten på engelska istället för ditt eget språk. Om du har en skärmdump av den här buggen (bra vana att ta en), så kan du använda en programvara (snipboard.io som till exempel) för att ladda upp bilden och klistra in länken här. Är denna text tillgänglig i översättningssystemet? I så fall, var det mer än 24 timmar sedan den översattes?
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? • Vad har du för webbläsare?
Mozilla v5
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• Vänligen förklara ditt förslag exakt och koncist så att det är så enkelt som möjligt att förstå vad du menar.
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? • Vad har du för webbläsare?
Mozilla v5
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• Vad visades på skärmen när du blockerades (Blank skärm? Del av spelets användargränssnitt? Felmeddelande?)?
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? • Vad har du för webbläsare?
Mozilla v5
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• Vilken del av reglerna respekterades inte av BGA-adaptionen?
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? -
• Är regelbrottet synligt i återuppspelning? Om ja, vilket nummer är det på draget?
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Mozilla v5
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• Vilken spelhandling ville du göra?
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? -
• Vad försöker du göra för att sätta igång denna spelmekaniken?
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• Vad hände när du försökte göra det här (felmeddelande, meddelande i spelstatusrad, ...)?
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Mozilla v5
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• På vilket steg i spelet kom felet (vad var den aktuella instruktionen från spelet)?
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? -
• Vad hände när du försökte utföra en spelhandling (felmeddelande, meddelande i spelstatusrad, ...)?
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Mozilla v5
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• Vänligen beskriv visningsproblemet. Om du har en skärmdump av den här buggen (bra vana att ta en), så kan du använda en programvara (snipboard.io som till exempel) för att ladda upp bilden och klistra in länken här.
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? • Vad har du för webbläsare?
Mozilla v5
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• Var vänlig kopiera/klistra in texten på engelska istället för ditt eget språk. Om du har en skärmdump av den här buggen (bra vana att ta en), så kan du använda en programvara (snipboard.io som till exempel) för att ladda upp bilden och klistra in länken här. Är denna text tillgänglig i översättningssystemet? I så fall, var det mer än 24 timmar sedan den översattes?
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? • Vad har du för webbläsare?
Mozilla v5
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• Vänligen förklara ditt förslag exakt och koncist så att det är så enkelt som möjligt att förstå vad du menar.
Turn-based tournaments almost always use "no playing hours" option, because this allows anyone in the world to attend. But when playing a game against someone in a timezone close or identical to yours, whoever plays the last move every day has a large advantage because its opponent's time runs all night. And it's likely to happen to the same player every evening, which makes the advantage even larger.
Exemple : someone from London plays against someone from Moscow. The player from London plays until 11pm every day. That's 2am in Moscown, so unless he/she stays awake until 2am, the player from Moscow will lose several hours ot thinking time every day only because of timezones.
This suggestion could solve this. I think it would work for turn-based tournaments because :
- Most turn-based players can play a turn once in a while almost any time of the year, so not knowing the maximum duration of the tournament before registering is not as much of a problem as it would be for a real-time tournament.
- It would allow the use of time jokers, for those few moments in the year you can't play regularly
It would make it possible for a game to never end, though, just like single games can (if one player stops playing and the other does not kick him). Maybe simply add a mechanism to automatically end the game if one players goes too far in the negative ? • Vad har du för webbläsare?
Mozilla v5
Rapporthistorik
If players could be matched by time zone initially, I think that would go a long way towards fair tournament play.
It's not a good representation of my attention to the game, even if I am playing well. I didn't understand this about tournament play and will be unlikely to join tournaments in the future. It's too bad this hasn't been fixed yet.
Someone who runs out of time should still get kicked from the game.
Let's take an example. You play 2 turns per day on average, and you enter a game that lasts about 20 moves per player :
Scenario A : you enter a simple game at 2 turns / day. You're fine, you know you'll never run our of time. How fast your opponent plays doesn't matter.
Scenario B : you enter a 7 days per player tournament game. Here the outcome varies A LOT depending on how fast your opponent plays :
- If your opponent is very active, their time will almost never tick. After slightly more than 7 days, you run out of time while having played only about 14 moves out of 20
- If your opponent is as active as you, or even a bit less, the game may last 10 days, or a bit more, but none of the player will run out of time.
This way of counting time was designed and is fine for real time, because as soon as your opponent plays, your thinking time starts. In turn based, what starts when your opponent plays is, most of the time, not thinking time but idle time for you. This system does not reward players who think fast, it rewards player willing to stop what they're doing in real life and connect to play more often.
Is this the kind of behaviour BGA wants to encourage from their players ?
IE. If game length set to 15 days - it would still end at 15 days, but within that each player would get +time each time they take a turn to ensure that they don't go into the red on time as long as they're still playing - instead of the current system where the time just ticks-down and no new time ever gets added.
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- Ett annat spelbords-ID / drag-ID
- Löste F5 problemet?
- Uppträdde problemet flera gånger? Varje gång? Slumpmässigt?
- Om du har en skärmdump av den här buggen (bra vana att ta en), så kan du använda en programvara (snipboard.io som till exempel) för att ladda upp bilden och klistra in länken här.
