#67415: "Number 5 never occurring while breaking safe"
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Detaljerad beskrivning
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• Var vänlig klipp och klistra in felmeddelandet du ser på skärmen, om något.
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• Varsågod och förklara vad du ville göra, vad du gjorde och vad som hände
The dice ability to make a 5.
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Safari v15.4
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• Var vänlig kopiera/klistra in texten på engelska istället för ditt eget språk. Om du har en skärmdump av den här buggen (bra vana att ta en), så kan du använda en programvara (snipboard.io som till exempel) för att ladda upp bilden och klistra in länken här. Är denna text tillgänglig i översättningssystemet? I så fall, var det mer än 24 timmar sedan den översattes?
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Safari v15.4
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• Vänligen förklara ditt förslag exakt och koncist så att det är så enkelt som möjligt att förstå vad du menar.
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Safari v15.4
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• Vad visades på skärmen när du blockerades (Blank skärm? Del av spelets användargränssnitt? Felmeddelande?)?
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Safari v15.4
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• Vilken del av reglerna respekterades inte av BGA-adaptionen?
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• Är regelbrottet synligt i återuppspelning? Om ja, vilket nummer är det på draget?
The dice ability to make a 5.
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Safari v15.4
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• Vilken spelhandling ville du göra?
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• Vad försöker du göra för att sätta igång denna spelmekaniken?
The dice ability to make a 5.
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• Vad hände när du försökte göra det här (felmeddelande, meddelande i spelstatusrad, ...)?
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Safari v15.4
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• På vilket steg i spelet kom felet (vad var den aktuella instruktionen från spelet)?
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• Vad hände när du försökte utföra en spelhandling (felmeddelande, meddelande i spelstatusrad, ...)?
The dice ability to make a 5.
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Safari v15.4
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• Vänligen beskriv visningsproblemet. Om du har en skärmdump av den här buggen (bra vana att ta en), så kan du använda en programvara (snipboard.io som till exempel) för att ladda upp bilden och klistra in länken här.
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Safari v15.4
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• Var vänlig kopiera/klistra in texten på engelska istället för ditt eget språk. Om du har en skärmdump av den här buggen (bra vana att ta en), så kan du använda en programvara (snipboard.io som till exempel) för att ladda upp bilden och klistra in länken här. Är denna text tillgänglig i översättningssystemet? I så fall, var det mer än 24 timmar sedan den översattes?
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Safari v15.4
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• Vänligen förklara ditt förslag exakt och koncist så att det är så enkelt som möjligt att förstå vad du menar.
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• Vad har du för webbläsare?
Safari v15.4
Rapporthistorik
FYI, in case this helps… I was the advanced Peterman character. So I was adding and rolling safe dice from the floor below in-between turns where Zilch was rolling too. I would usually get an “unstable interface” toast notification (Chrome browser on Mac) on my first mouse click and then my second click would perform my special action to roll the safe dice.
Last night, while observing skriss' game, there were two issues noticed:
1) There were several instances of duplicate sets being rolled on 4 die. The sets looked something like this (pattern is correct but the numbers aren't exact):
2,1,6,4
2,1,6,4
Next turn:
4,5,2,1
4,5,2,1
6,2,4,2
6,2,4,2
This was the most egregious example that I remember but there were several other ones showing an issue. The odds of getting three consecutive pairs of matches like that on 4 die are astronomically low (it's (1/6)^12, or roughly 1 in 500,000,000)
From my experience developing other applications, this is probably caused by a new RNG object being created for every set of rolls. Doing this in quick succession creates the RNG objects with the same seed, causing them to generate the same set of numbers. This can be fixed by creating a single instance of the RNG that is used for the entire turn or a single instance used for the entire game.
2) Players would intermittently receive an error when rolling to open the safe (was on a Skype call with the players who discussed it there). I suspect that the correct number was actually being "rolled" but it generated the error when rolled. This was observed after using the Peterman's drill ability to open a safe on a different floor. It was only seen when attempting to get the last number of the safe but I don't remember if the other numbers were rolled before or after the first use of the Peterman's ability.
It's possible that this is the cause of issue 1 and that rolling the needed number caused the game to "fall back" to the previous set of rolls when the error was encountered.
Hopefully this helps. We've really enjoyed the game so far.
As I said, an error message occurred quite often, I believe it was when the die should have been 5 and the safe open, the bug probably comes from a bug happening when the safe opens.
On this bug:
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=42896
you said 'should be ok', so you doesn't seem to be sure and doesn't seem to have tested that.
Could there be that donuts are generated on that tile on that floor, the game doesn't like it, so don't allow that to happen and roll something else.
It appears that the two players rolled 215 times for the safe on floor 1. The results were 41 ones, 43 twos, 43 threes, 44 fours, 0 fives, and 44 sixes.
I think you have a bug and I think you owe everyone here an apology.
Here, the problem isn't the random, but something else.
But yeah that something is here: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=68285
2) And did you test with the advanced Peterman character? This is another common symptom.
Those are the 2 common reported symptoms. Please do your due diligence and test them. Instability bugs are always difficult to resolve, so I understand if you end up not being successful. But you have not provided sufficient evidence to call this 'notabug' at this point.
and for the record, i am a volunteer developer that doing this on my free time because i like the game and the spirit of BGA, insulting me or my work (or at least being rude) doesn't help at all ^^
and this is true for most of the games developed here
I think flakattack510 said it all.
Not able to roll a 1 -- my math professor partner in the game says we are up to 1 in 9 million chance.
Peterman's Drill being used along with "normal" attempts.
Getting lots and lots of "error processing database request" messages -- about as often as the chance of rolling a 1 on at least 1 of 4-5 dice.
Same bug, and Advanced Peterman is in the game. Although it occurs for either player, not just Advanced Peterman. We got no 1s, and frequently got the database error: "Unexpected error: Error while processing Database request (reference: GS9 25/07 22:52:36)". Presumably that error happened whenever we would have actually rolled a 1.
This was on the 3rd floor. No problems on floor 1 or floor 2. Floor 3 was when the Advanced Peterman started to Drill, and the error started when we were down to needing only 1 number.
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- Ett annat spelbords-ID / drag-ID
- Löste F5 problemet?
- Uppträdde problemet flera gånger? Varje gång? Slumpmässigt?
- Om du har en skärmdump av den här buggen (bra vana att ta en), så kan du använda en programvara (snipboard.io som till exempel) för att ladda upp bilden och klistra in länken här.
